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Now I recognize my seafarer map. ;) My guess is that it will be very difficult with logs/fuel and also fruit, since the trees don´t spread so good on bogland but we will see. Just one thing. I just opened a decent map but why don´t they bring any barley seed? They have barley in their bags so that´s not so logical and also bad because I play “harsh” so there´s not much use to try rye.

You may be right that these “pompoms” makes it look a bit too sweet and not really like a bog area, more like some meadow flowers. And I think such “brownish” bushes like those on Jase´s pictures would look more realistic. But somehow, I think you´re on the right way; with just a little grass, it will be easier to find the bogland tiles. By the way Jase; it seems like we are colleagues; I´m an environmental engineer, now retired.

I went on some more years yesterday. Peat extraction is tedious. Of course, I must test it in this game but in a normal game with another goal, I rather think that I would use the “Reclaim bogland” button a lot. I use to mark 20-30 tiles on a spot where I want to use the area later (or in the close forest, to make room for new trees and berries). It´s fast enough for labourers to clear the ground for the miners but after that, it takes a long time to get all peat out. I´ve used 3 miners that I take away in autumn to pick berries but it takes something like a year for these 3 miners to extract some 200-300 fuel. It would have been much faster to send 3 more workers to pick deadwood in a forest more far away. I think I will look more into it in detail and make some calculations later.

A totally different matter;
I´m no big fan of buildings without a road. It´s so easy to make a mistake and forget the road. Some of them, like the tannery, works quite alright because it has this small extension in front of it so you can see, where the road must be but the new turf storehouse has something like empty tiles on the front. I´ve built several of them on the wrong spot. The store on the picture wasn´t too bad, I only needed to move the field but why not a row of road tiles? I can understand that there are no road attached to buildings out in the forest like the trapper where no one need to go but a store; it needs to be visited all the time and connected road tiles would make sense to me.

You are both fast. I´ve just downloaded and will start to test later. We´ll see if I agree with Jase´s points. Much of it makes sense to me.

You haven´t written anything about trade, Tom. Have you made any changes here? At least taken away the “order bug” by the food categories, I hope.

My opinion is that happiness detraction or not isn´t important for that building. It´s unlikely that you will build a lot of longhouses (it could work but only with a lot of tedious micromanagement). I would use it as the first (or second) housing for the start and as one or a few boardinghouses for temporarily use for nomads later in the game. In the beginning, you will not bother about happiness anyway and if a few nomads are fully happy or not for a short time isn´t very game-changing.

And I find, use of fittings is OK. I think it pays off even to build a goathi and demolish it if you want to. I also think that it´s possible to build the longhouse as the first home in most starting options where you have iron from the start.

It wasn´t easy and unless you´re very lucky or have a much better starting position than average I guess it only works on “mild” but I actually did build the longhouse for my 3 “seafarer” families before winter. Although I needed 3 attempts.

1 attempt; I prefer the tar kiln to make charcoal but it started to make 9 tar from that small amount of firewood that was there and it was winter before I even could produce any charcoal.

2 attempt; instead I built the charcoal pile, could produce some charcoal and even some iron fittings. All building material was there but only 3 fittings delivered to the building site. I thought, now is someone carrying the rest 3 fittings around but they were nowhere to find until I discovered that I´ve only built 1 store and it was completely full with food with no space left for any fittings. Again failure.

3. attempt; this one took long. There were at least 10 “not playable maps”; several with about 10 trees to reach unless you build a bridge or no close water and even if I don´t really intend to go on with this map, I don´t want to kill many of my sheep. Finally, I found one; everything worked out, although it was pretty close because one lady seemed to love these fittings and decided to carry them around for quite some time but in the Jule month, just as the first snow began to fall, the impressive longhouse stood there and everyone could move in.

It´s lovely. I do like it. Thank you. But next time, I guess there will be a goahti for the start.

(The map for my last attempt only had rye and turnips as crops, I thought they always had barley. Weird that they couldn´t plant any, it was all they had in their bags)

As far as I know, no achievements work with a mod. You can´t even use a translation.

I have stopped using these small clay spots, just because the reasons you say; it´s not so easy to refill them. I usually build a large claypit (in the menu of bricks) right at the beginning.

The small holes can be filled but you need the same amount of clay to fill it as you got out of it; so making a new small spot to fill another is a “never-ending story”, as far as I remember you need a builder to fill it and it follows the limit of logs, so if you have more logs than the limit you´ve set, nothing will happen.